[ Wringing her hands, now that they're empty, Ursula bites her lip for a long moment before answering. ]

... She shouldn't have period. No one should have to hurt anyone else here, not even Coach, to get out. What she did... was wrong. Coach could have died too. I don't... I don't know if this is "fair trade". It doesn't... feel fair. But what Helena did... isn't either.

... No one is in the right, in this situation...